Thanks for the pics baldy . I remember seeing the different powders just didnt know the terms. The stick powder wouldnt measure out right cuz of the voids it would leave when it falls in the disc. Need to get to cabelas quick this gift card is burning a hole in my wallet like a big fat wad. I want to get started now. Maybe this weekend. The wife hasnt been there yet and my boy would like to see the elephant and rhino.