Has anybody used this gun or does anyone have one? I was wanting to know how they work out for yote hunting. I'm thinking about getting a yote rifle. As of
right now, I am using a .17 HMR. Sharing any experience with this gun is greatly appreciated!! Thanks!!
Remington .17 Fireball
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Posts: 933 (12/12/08 16:08:31) King High Caller |
Bullets might be expensive unless you reload. Weedwacker has a .17 remington its a really fast round adn works for yotes. Not to sure about the fireball.
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Posts: 8689 (12/12/08 17:15:12) |
.17 fireball should be good for coyotes. Shoot 25 Berger match bullets. Shot placement is key. I got the .17 Rem because it has just a bit more zing than
the fireball (which is really the .17 mach IV rehashed) and I like to shoot 30 grain Boat-tail bullets. If you don't reload it might not be that great of
a choice. Not sure what all is offered in factory loads.
Weedwacker
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Posts: 4 (12/12/08 17:50:50) |
Thanks guys my mother inlaw works for remington so i can get anything they make for way less then market was just on thier site and seen it and just thaught id
ask bout it ...
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Posts: 934 (12/12/08 19:13:12) King High Caller |
Sounds like you have a sweet hook up.
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Posts: 5 (12/12/08 19:39:47) |
yeah its nice wifes geting me a yote rifle for my bday and just looking around at whats out there thinking about a 22-250 was going to get one last year but
some things came up and didnt have the funds im hopeing to have it by the chill and kill i got to see what price she can get me on it...
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Posts: 1325 (12/12/08 19:58:49) King High Caller |
I have been wanting to get a 204 ruger, but cant find a left handed one yet.
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Posts: 936 (12/12/08 20:08:03) King High Caller |
Get one of those new remington Ar-15's I think its called the VTR-15 or something. The 204's are nice but you would think with that light of a bullet
the wind would play havoc with it at long distance. My buddies dad is thinking about getting a .204 but I think a .223 is a better choice ammo is cheaper
unless you reload.
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Posts: 8692 (12/12/08 21:30:21) |
The .204 is so fast I don't think the wind would be that huge of a problem. It's not gonna be much worse than a .223 if any. Have to plug and play a
ballistics table and see.
Weedwacker
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Posts: 939 (12/13/08 06:26:21) King High Caller |
How well does your .17 do in the wind at long range weed?? I pulled up the hornady ballistics calculator and the .204 with a 45 gr bullet going 3625 fps in a
10mph cross wind will drift 2.43at 200 yds. and the .223 wth a 40 gr bullet going 3400 same wind will drift 2.63 So I guess they are really close. With the
.204 and 32 gr. bullet going 4225 will drift 2.04. Looks like the faster the bullet the less drift. no matter what the weight. I used a ballistics coeffient
of .200 wich is comparable to a V-max It would make a good yote round with the 40 or 45 gr bullets.
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Posts: 6 (12/13/08 08:19:20) |
I wish i could widow they a little out of my range i think im either going with a 22-250,308 or 243 one of the three i talked to my mother inlaw last night and
she can get any shells they make for 5 bucks a box was looking at h&r singal shots also realy likeing the 25-06 thumbhole not a bad price either but that
quick follow up shot is nice thow with a bolt action me and a buddy suppose to go out later today but it windy here so dont know how thats going to work out
hopefuly i atleast get to drop the hammer on one and rem has a left hand model in 204 not real cheap tho well good luck guys ....
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Posts: 942 (12/13/08 08:32:49) King High Caller |
Man thats some cheap ammo. Thats what it costs me to reload. THose are all good rounds, the .308 wont be fur friendly. The H&R are good guns with great
accuracy. You can get them rebarreled for around $80 just make sure you get the SB2 model wich you can put any barrel on . The SB1 model can only rebarreld
with shotgun barrels.
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Posts: 2670 (12/13/08 14:10:04) King High Caller |
I am going to load some .17 Fireball for a friend this evening, if I get some Hornets done for another guy that is. The Fireball is suppose to do well for the
guy I am loading for. Myself, I would prefer a .223 or .22-250 I think, but that's just me.
And that’s
the way it might be………..Until next
time, Tooldummy
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Posts: 241 (12/19/08 12:38:16) Predator's Worst Nightmare |
I'm looking to get a .22-250 fast flat shooting with a big range in bullet size. I have a .204 works great on yotes, i don't know what it is but it
tears fox up if you hit anything hard. But love my .222 also.
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Posts: 9 (03/04/09 07:39:28) |
my friend got a .204 for free from sabre defence. (did a show with them, lucky ass. haha) we recently were doing a drive and he shot this dog 3 times at around
400 yards but wouldnt go down. makes me question the knock down power of it but it shooots extremely flat and has great distance. (i later trailed the coyote
and shot it with my AR as it tried to circle on us.)
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Posts: 8919 (03/05/09 08:18:01) |
Knueven wrote: 
Weedwacker
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Posts: 25 (03/05/09 17:26:06) |
I dont so much look at knock down power any more since i realized it doesnt matter if you can't hit were you're aiming. So i preffer "stay down
power " vs. "knock down power."
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Posts: 25 (03/05/09 17:26:12) |
I dont so much look at knock down power any more since i realized it doesnt matter if you can't hit were you're aiming. So i preffer "stay down
power over " vs. "knock down power."
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Posts: 76 (03/06/09 06:30:11) |
I shoot a 204 alot at night. I think the 32gr is good for about 150 yards. The 40gr is good for about 225 yards for a quick kill. I shot one a couple of weeks
ago at 325 yards. It fell over, then got back up and ran off. Not enouogh blood trail to track. So I switched to a 243wssm. I use it the most now. Stops them
in there tracks. Except for a few areas where I hunt that has to many homes to close, then I go back to the 204.
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Posts: 781 (03/07/09 16:41:41) King High Caller |
Though I've experimented with .223's on coyotes I've not been at all impressed with the killing power of them. Shooting 50 and 55 grain bullets
I've seen them splash where the same bullet from a fast stepping .22-250 may also splash but will retain enough energy to penetrate into the vitals of a
shoulder shot coyote. I've not bothered with a .204 because I just can't see how they can be all that on 40 pound coyotes. I just can't get excited
with light 40 grain bullets, even at 4000+ FPS.
Time and time again I come back to the .243 Winchester pushing a 75 to 85 grain bullet as the ideal coyote cartridge for eastern coyotes. I don't remember exactly which video of Byron South's it was, but the killing power of the .223 is very well demonstrated as nearly every coyote killed in the video has to be shot multiple times. A couple of years ago I shot a coyote 434 yards with my .243 Winchester chambered rifle. I was shooting a factory Federal premium load with an 85 grain Sierra Game King BTHP. I held about 18 inches over the coyotes head and hit the coyote in the rear hip. The coyote began dragging itself toward a thicket. I was unable to hit the moving target again so I had to close the distance on foot. That coyote made it into a waterway and dissappeared from my sight before I could get close enough to finish it. When I finally located the very alive coyote it again attempted to get up and run, but I was able to finish it. The 85 grain bullet had completely penetrated the rear hip of that coyote and left a fist size exit hole on the off side. I could look in and see the rear hip joint. I'd have to say this a great demonstration of retained energy and what it can do for you. Though it's purely open to conjecture, I firmly believe I'd have #1 never hit this coyote with a .223, and #2 if I had, it would have never imobilized this coyote to point the .243 did. I believe had I been shooting a .223 that day that that coyote would have ran into the thicket and disappeared. Instead, it made for the memorable shot I've ever made on a coyote. Coyote 6974
He's easy to track.. Leaves dead coyotes wherever he goes..
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Posts: 2 (06/20/09 12:18:52) |
After 300yds the 204 will let more dogs get away if they have not been hit well that in mind was the reason that now I use the 20-225CG at 400yds its still a
pop and drop.
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